He clearly knew NOTHING of what was actually happening. Perhaps not along these lines, no, but perhaps we can teach them to recover the compassion that was once part of the Scientology world on a long gone past, so they can AT LEAST be able to offer sensible recommendations, and referrals to responsible psychotherapists who dont use primitive methods of healing and dangerous drugs to help their patients. And how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, Nice try, Gtsix, but I know better than to fall into the traps of rhetoric, . If they were, their approach in the show would be different, and they would be more careful with the facts and about not making generalizations out of a few instances and stereotyping the Scientologists in general. For Christs sakes, what is Thursday Funnies and Regraded Being about If not about mocking the church? Yet he criticises the ones who do. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. And btw, I DO study the works of many, many great psychiatrists whom I greatly admire. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion., It seems to me that most spiritual teachers I have come across absolutely do include psychotherapy as part of their spiritual teaching, although they might not use that term. By assumptions, I meant what was presented on the episode 2 of The Aftermath season 2. Why is that? These could be briefly catalogued as: (and he gives a list). They Mike Rinder and her decided on a specific narrative beforehand, and they are fishing for stories that fits and support that narrative. If people come to me and are not ready to abandon their fathers, mothers, wives, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as their own lives, they cannot be my disciples.. Are we that naive so as to negate that her Fight against the abuses HAS been very helpful for her career? Thats why I was a squirrel who seldom followed LRH to the letter. For decades it was even taught in schools that they were quacks which I think was said about anything that wasnt medicine and under the control of the AMA. Another one of my increasing senior moments Im afraid. I knew the Tweed family. Honestly Statpush, does that sound like an agenda for reformation to you? VETERAN Obituary H.L. How convenient!!! And Im mos def not an anti Scientologist. Id like to know what some experienced tech people have to say on the subject. Hubbard had some harsh words for medicos and learned men, in general. I think the painting she made of Tayler is beautiful and I hope she gets a whole bunch of new business from the show. Perhaps, we are starting from a different definition of Correct Public Relations. He was a graduate of Middle Township High School's "Class of 69" and was a member of the reunion committee, helping to plan all class reunions. It does appear the mother attempt to coordinate care for her daughter at some level. Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. Marvin Ernest Seibold, age 92, of Hendersonville, North Carolina, passed away on Friday, February 10th, 2023, comfortably in his home, with his wife of over 71 years, Helen. Youre extremely eager to call out Mike and Leah. Unfortunately, now, we gained no further information from Tyler Tweeds death. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor. Second guessing a mother who has lost a daughter to suicide like this is pretty cruel, dont you think? But of course, the current anti-Scientology narrative used by haters and by uninformed individuals to help their OWN personal agendas, disseminate a false perception brought about by the Media show. I think A&E should interview Cathy Tweed and give her time on their network after what has been done to her. The whole diatribe about spreading hate is something someone says because they dont like the message. Funeral arrangements are incomplete by Don Brown Funeral Home in Ayden, NC. , Good point, I give you that! Getting licensed is actually a great idea for auditors dealing specifically with the mentally ill as opposed to those auditors dealing with the more stable ones. And like me, there were others who had to do the same. Most people, unless there was some kind of religious or ideological vengeance they wanted to exact, would never do such a thing to someone like that. Is that true, though? So lets look at this. Caring for the insane is costly and time-consuming and requires resources. I cant honestly say that I know enough about her to make a fair comment as to her potentials. Would you want those teachings to be licensed? They married three years later in 2013 and had two children-Luke Joseph Bass (8) and . But its a big stretch and a falsehood to broaden that to say the church doesnt treat the mentally ill. There are references for doing so going back to the first books, such as in Science of Survival with its Chart of Human Evaluation which specifies how to audit neurosis and psychosis. I was on staff on technical lines, so I was privy to this kind of information. We are currently puzzled about how Tyler Tweed died. He was the oldest living past master of. Could it be that you ARE one???? 1945 - 2023. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. For his role as a spiritual healer, or advisor, no licensing is expected, of course. And Ill take a look at those videos, thanks! Take effective measures to correct such wrongdoings where and when they have occurred. E) Getting the person to put his/her MEST in order by giving him one simple step to do each day. Send flowers. If I remember right it was a tough decision that went to the Supreme Court and that was with regard to children. The unlikeliness of reform does not come from a group but only from one single individual. Criminal acts are not covered by the first amendment. Tony? You do know that Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed about being at peace with it during a phone call he made to her on the day of Taylers funeral, right?. Your comment was interesting to me. This test (questionnaire, which was mostly done unmetered) was usually done by me, as I was kind of famous for spotting troublemakers even without the e-meter, and on the spot. NOBODY deserves to be starved and beaten and to lose their families. (Mick) Peacefully at rest on 30th September 2022 at the Royal Stoke. One sane and balanced comment, at last! Leah and Mike heroes??? What we need to do is to push for reformation with an specific message (non accusative, non punitive, non harshly critical) repeated over and over again, while showing specific instances that totally prove our points. Attention whore and trying to look like the good guy. As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. It is a dangerous brain illness. Must be Hurracaine Irma! Ms Remini and her team arent spreading hate. If the disability is pronounced to be curable within the skill of the physical practitioner and is in actual fact a disease or illness which surrenders to contemporary physical treatment, to require the person to be so treated before Scientology processing may be undertaken; (End of quote). I just couldnt resist it, . But in my opinion, most of these abuses are not based on sensible uses of the existing Scn policies, but in misinterpretation of them, or using them in fundamentalistic ways without proper discernment and good judgement. I consider my point PROVED! But, if that condition did not resolve they would seek traditional medical treatment. Autor do post Por ; Data de publicao ruschell boone family; legacy obituaries huntsville, alabama em mick taylor that pedal show wife em mick taylor that pedal show wife For his hat or role as a psychotherapist he is expected to be trained and properly licensed. I already posted earlier about knowing Tayler and how she 100% wanted to leave the cult. But that doesnt alter the fact that she wasnt any longer on the public eye not that she necessarily needed any money. After the incredible inflow of Crazy hatred being generated by the show and coming in as comments on my blog the overwhelming majority of which I have trashed I am actually concerned for Cathy Tweeds safety. For some reason, no medications that treat the brain are allowed. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !!. You dont know me. We must become auditors TO THEM if we are to expect any reformations to happen. I am sure there are two sides to every story, and while I am not sure how supportive the Tweeds actually were, I am fully sure that A&E provided a very balanced side of the tragedy, given the most outraged friend didnt have the solid history of seeing Tayler in person. Let me enlighten you here, a little about how those answers look like. Guest12, the church (as you called it, which irrelevant to the point under discussion), DID made attempts to prove them wrong by sending the executives of A&E letters of protests, and by specific videos done by the family members (who are still in the church) of those individuals being talked about in the show. Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed the day after her daughters funeral. It is called, POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY AND SOURCES OF TROUBLE written on 27 Oct 1964 : Any process labeled healing, old or new, refers to healing by mental and spiritual means and should therefore be looked upon as the relief of difficulties arising from mental and spiritual causes., The proper procedure in being requested to heal some complained-of physical disability is as follows:, 1. Their motives for doing this may be more of a legal rudiment, rather than a professed belief in medicine. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). AGAIN Claire, you sre ASSUMING that just because a THIRD PARTY who has ABSOLUTELY no personal knowledge of such events but mostly through hearsay not backed up by ANY texts of FB posts, ANYTHING is saying so. I went to see a doctor, did the tests, was found with my triglycerides very high, and my blood pressure high enough so as to be put on a special diet (I used to eat a lot of junk food back then; now, I dont), which I did long enough to get everything back down to normal. OBITUARY William L Tweed May 23, 1919- November 25, 2012 IN THE CARE OF Skyline Memorial Gardens and Funeral Home William Leslie Tweed 23 May 1919, Portland Oregon - 25 Nov 2012 Portland Oregon Son of Otto Tweed and Esther Nathalia (Carlson) Tweed In 1962 he became a pattern maker when he went to work at Dependable Pattern Works. Its like that organ cant get sick. 1 2022 , , : / - , Copyright 2015 2024 rojgarlive.com All Rights Reserved. Burn in Hell. Christopher Dewayne Redd. Its similar to families who bring their kids up seeming to dote on them, but murder them in an honor killing lately. I guess that we will have to continue this interesting discussion at another forum, or through email lines, , Well, TC, a compelling posting, indeed. I just dont buy it, Statpush. Lila will be intered beside her husband Dan, at St. Carthagh's Cemetery, Tweed, on Saturday, November 20 at 1 PM CASSIBO: Agnes Theresa, at Belmont Long Term Care, Belleville, on October 15, 2021. As have many very cruel people before you. I can see the public interest perspective with this series and and other productions that seek to find a story and tell it,, it has been created with key words cult secret confidential gulag ,, and so on not to mention the mood music and lighting,,, Its what media does,, its never enough just to have a story confined to the specifics and analyse it,,,no one buys that approach anymore.. But we assure you that we will provide the factual details when we are informed. So we all must be at least a little bit paranoid. Historic Notices 0. I have to say that I have little respect for your experience with suicide survivors if it results in a comment like this. And if the HE goes, then THEY would start acting sane. Words fall short of expressing our grief for your loss, as we mourn with family and friends for this great loss. In your blog post, you write There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you, yet I see no actual proof of any information, only anecdotal accounts of how they tried to help her. Avoid the cult at all costs. I cant fault you on your logic. Does he read minds now? I witnessed how badly and uncompassionate their originations as to feeling overrun were handled by uncaring Course sups. Everett R. Tweed, III "Gene" MEGGETT, S.C. - Everett R. "Gene" Tweed, III, 77, of Meggett, husband of Betty B. Tweed, died Saturday, June 27, 2009 at Roper Hospital . This was not a trap. I do distinctly remember being told I needed another check up and I was not happy about it. Would Scientology allow Tayler to see a psychiatrist accredited by the American Psychiatric Association? But you are the police officer taking her complaint. Now, the anti-Scientology narrative and the anti-Scientologists would attempt us to believe that LRH was only a lunatic who thought that psychiatry was guilty of many Human Rights abuses, and of many abusive treatments; and that ONLY Scientology opposes psychiatry. An assist is not a substitute for medical treatment but is complementary to it. Ive done a whois search to see who owns the domain and its been made by proxies, which means that whoever runs the website wants to remain private. Not that much if compared with the expected scenario. Janice Ann Taylor, 79, of Bowmansville, passed away on Saturday, February 25, 2023, in her home surrounded by her loving family. Most of the time internet deceives the audience by passing news about a healthy person as if they are dead. I am Jim Dandy and Im here to the rescue. Cal., and both never mentioned by LA Times. Youll be send back in a plane (if thats how you got there) to your home to go see a licensed medical doctor, get properly treated, and once you are DONE, go back WITH the evidence that you did so. If you really have that much experience with suicide survivors, how could you possibly be this cruel to one that you would dictate what her response should be to you on her own daughters suicide? : https://alanzosblog.com/critics-scientology-withdraw-support-direction-season-2-scientology-aftermath/. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. Nice try, Thetaclear. Taylor met his wife, Angela Mondello Bass in 2010. But now my concern is with my daughter and her mom. Here is what Dr. Breggin has to say about that : http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/interviews/breggin.html. This minister is a cult leader who ask for unquestionable obedience. Perhaps I need MEDICATION, I must be going crazy or something, because, I mean, this is just me and a very few others who think like this. Taylor Eugene Bass went home to be with the Lord on February 23, 2023 at the age of 40. Search Tweed obituaries and condolences, hosted by Echovita.com. Hell, I just got booted out of a Facebook group for being a little too conciliatory Scn theory-wise. And the lack of compassion of publicly exposing the members of the church to big loses that they had gone through, just so that Mike and Leah can support their own specific agendas. He was born in Wilton, North Dakota. As far as journalism goes you getting all sides of the story Leah and Mike suck. Certainly, if one is sick to begin with, then the HCOPL: Policies on Physical Healing, Insanity and Sources of Trouble applies, specifically on this point : 3. Need help? 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